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		<title>Comment on Christian Participation in Representative Democracy, Part II by Scott Lenger</title>
		<link>http://scottlenger.com/christianity/christian-participation-in-representative-democracy-part-2/#comment-15276</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Lenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tony, is &lt;a href="http://www.brianmclaren.net/archives/blog/the-matthew-25-network.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this endorsement&lt;/a&gt; sufficient enough to qualify as an endorsement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tony, is <a href="http://www.brianmclaren.net/archives/blog/the-matthew-25-network.html" rel="nofollow">this endorsement</a> sufficient enough to qualify as an endorsement?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Marriage Advice&#8212;and how to Get the Undivided Attention of Guests at a Wedding Dinner by Aaron</title>
		<link>http://scottlenger.com/christianity/marriage-advice/#comment-15249</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marriage has helped me to understand the gospel and understand what a complete turd I am.  Because of Jody's faithfulness to me,. . I understand a bit more fully the kind of love that Christ has.     

That's not to say I've had no fun.  Jody has been the best thing that ever happened to me.  But the rewards for a love that isn't merit based or based on someone paying you back are much greater than any dating/puppy/mtv/dinner and a movie type of love. 

Aaron
www.randominsights-aaron.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marriage has helped me to understand the gospel and understand what a complete turd I am.  Because of Jody&#8217;s faithfulness to me,. . I understand a bit more fully the kind of love that Christ has.     </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say I&#8217;ve had no fun.  Jody has been the best thing that ever happened to me.  But the rewards for a love that isn&#8217;t merit based or based on someone paying you back are much greater than any dating/puppy/mtv/dinner and a movie type of love. </p>
<p>Aaron<br />
<a href="http://www.randominsights-aaron.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.randominsights-aaron.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Marriage Advice&#8212;and how to Get the Undivided Attention of Guests at a Wedding Dinner by Jen</title>
		<link>http://scottlenger.com/christianity/marriage-advice/#comment-15245</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After five years of marriage, my perspective on Love has changed drastically and yet I know that I have so much more to learn.  I love what Caputo says about stepping out in faith and loving what the person will become.  This is what God does in us.  He loves us for what He knows we will be, not for what we are in the moment.  In Judges 6, God calls Gideon a might man of valor.  He calls this out in a man who fears he is weak because He knows what Gideon was intended to be.  This is Love.  And in marriage we can call out the man or woman God has intended our spouse to be and love in that, instead of a feeling.  This is just one of many ways God uses marriage to teach us how to love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After five years of marriage, my perspective on Love has changed drastically and yet I know that I have so much more to learn.  I love what Caputo says about stepping out in faith and loving what the person will become.  This is what God does in us.  He loves us for what He knows we will be, not for what we are in the moment.  In Judges 6, God calls Gideon a might man of valor.  He calls this out in a man who fears he is weak because He knows what Gideon was intended to be.  This is Love.  And in marriage we can call out the man or woman God has intended our spouse to be and love in that, instead of a feeling.  This is just one of many ways God uses marriage to teach us how to love.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Marriage Advice&#8212;and how to Get the Undivided Attention of Guests at a Wedding Dinner by Isaac</title>
		<link>http://scottlenger.com/christianity/marriage-advice/#comment-15238</link>
		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having just had our 5th anniversary, I can say that everything you said makes perfect sense.  The three year mark was without a doubt the beginning of the toughest part of our marraige so far (which sounds cheesy considering its only been 5 so far but who cares).  Learning to really love each other, and not just to have deep affections for each other has been a painful and difficult process, but it has been one that has been extremely rewarding.  However, I do think that it is possible to Love your spouse prior to marraige, I just think that it is a different experience.  It is the culmination of what you understand to be Love up to that point.  Some people are more emotionally and spiritually mature than others when they enter into the relationship that will eventually lead to marraige.  Some people have a solid understanding of Love before they enter a marraige, but nothing can prepare you for the unique experience of marraige, that's for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having just had our 5th anniversary, I can say that everything you said makes perfect sense.  The three year mark was without a doubt the beginning of the toughest part of our marraige so far (which sounds cheesy considering its only been 5 so far but who cares).  Learning to really love each other, and not just to have deep affections for each other has been a painful and difficult process, but it has been one that has been extremely rewarding.  However, I do think that it is possible to Love your spouse prior to marraige, I just think that it is a different experience.  It is the culmination of what you understand to be Love up to that point.  Some people are more emotionally and spiritually mature than others when they enter into the relationship that will eventually lead to marraige.  Some people have a solid understanding of Love before they enter a marraige, but nothing can prepare you for the unique experience of marraige, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Christian Foreign Policy? by admin</title>
		<link>http://scottlenger.com/christianity/a-christian-foreign-policy/#comment-15202</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@joe: you&#8217;re scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@joe: you&#8217;re scary.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Christian Foreign Policy? by Joe</title>
		<link>http://scottlenger.com/christianity/a-christian-foreign-policy/#comment-15197</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, as with every war, peace was the result of defeating these enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, as with every war, peace was the result of defeating these enemies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on William Cavanaugh&#8217;s Being Consumed: Economics and Christian Desire by Being Consumed : Sub Ratione Dei</title>
		<link>http://scottlenger.com/christianity/william-cavanaughs-being-consumed-economics-and-christian-desire/#comment-15097</link>
		<dc:creator>Being Consumed : Sub Ratione Dei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] won&#8217;t specifically review the book as there&#8217;s already decent reviews out there. However, just to say this is a wonderful little book and the ridiculously heavy irony [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] won&#8217;t specifically review the book as there&#8217;s already decent reviews out there. However, just to say this is a wonderful little book and the ridiculously heavy irony [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Absence of Discipleship in Contemporary Worship Music by Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

great post.

I think I would disagree with words like “most” and “majority” when it comes to triteness/inward focus as it relates to worship songs.

I think there are many examples of it, some of which you cited, but I think that the Passion movement, it of Tomlin/Crowder/Hall/Redman has many songs that proclaim deep truths of God, and don’t bail out at the end of a song with an emotional plea (. . lost for words, etc. . .). “How Great is our God”, and “Marvelous Light” come to mind.

There’s also the Sovereign Grace churches who put out very “thick” worship music, and the modern hymn writers Keith Getty and Stuart Townend who wrote modern classics like “How Deep the Father’s Love for us”.

I think there is a tendency in the Vineyard and Integrity music streams to be a bit “me-centered”. But, I hesitate to paint with a broad brush because I think that there are good and bad in all the various streams.

Let’s just “test everything and hold onto the good”.

concern duly noted, though. . . . good stuff,
Aaron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>great post.</p>
<p>I think I would disagree with words like “most” and “majority” when it comes to triteness/inward focus as it relates to worship songs.</p>
<p>I think there are many examples of it, some of which you cited, but I think that the Passion movement, it of Tomlin/Crowder/Hall/Redman has many songs that proclaim deep truths of God, and don’t bail out at the end of a song with an emotional plea (. . lost for words, etc. . .). “How Great is our God”, and “Marvelous Light” come to mind.</p>
<p>There’s also the Sovereign Grace churches who put out very “thick” worship music, and the modern hymn writers Keith Getty and Stuart Townend who wrote modern classics like “How Deep the Father’s Love for us”.</p>
<p>I think there is a tendency in the Vineyard and Integrity music streams to be a bit “me-centered”. But, I hesitate to paint with a broad brush because I think that there are good and bad in all the various streams.</p>
<p>Let’s just “test everything and hold onto the good”.</p>
<p>concern duly noted, though. . . . good stuff,<br />
Aaron</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sin, and the Beginnings of a Record Collection by Scott Lenger</title>
		<link>http://scottlenger.com/interesting/sin-and-the-beginnings-of-a-record-collection/#comment-15061</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Lenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BMer: Yeah, if you’re thinking about it I recommend starting soon as the limited runs can make things pretty hard to find later on.

Speaking of which, you can keep an eye out for these:
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Sunday Day Real Estate Diary&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Sunny Day Real Estate lp2&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Starflyer 59 Gold&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

That last one has gone for over $150 on ebay!

Aaron: Right on, sorry to offend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BMer: Yeah, if you’re thinking about it I recommend starting soon as the limited runs can make things pretty hard to find later on.</p>
<p>Speaking of which, you can keep an eye out for these:</p>
<ul>
<li>Sunday Day Real Estate Diary</li>
<li>Sunny Day Real Estate lp2</li>
<li>Starflyer 59 Gold</li>
</ul>
<p>That last one has gone for over $150 on ebay!</p>
<p>Aaron: Right on, sorry to offend.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sin, and the Beginnings of a Record Collection by Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just kidding scott. I’m gonna go get my starflyer 59, roadside monument, paradigm shift, grammatrain, and havalina rail co. posters out!!!!!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just kidding scott. I’m gonna go get my starflyer 59, roadside monument, paradigm shift, grammatrain, and havalina rail co. posters out!!!!!! :)</p>
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